Let’s ask Hillary NOT to accept VP
HIllary has a great career in the Senate, and if Obama loses, she can run for President in 2012.
If she is Obama’s VP and he wins, then she is stuck for 8 eight years in a secondary, power-less position — and by the time she got free she would be 68.
Don’t let her sacrifice herself this way!
For Hillary supporters:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp
For everyone:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nohillaryvp
For opponents of Hillary, supporters of Obama:
| No Confidence Vote for Hillary as VP http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/HisDecision …To the Media and Other Noise Makers, We write you because we believe it is very important for the Democratic process to play itself out without the continuous, gratuitous insinuations of media outlets such as CNN overplaying defeated opponents. It… Category: Government and Politics Added: June 7, 2008 |
| VICEPRESIDETNOHILLARY http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/VICEPRESIDETNOHILLARY …This petition is to let Hillary know that we do not want her as our VP candidate in 2008. Hillary Clintonâ??s… Category: Government and Politics Added: June 7, 2008 |
| Anyone but Hillary for VP http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/anyonebuthillaryforvp …We ask Barack Obama to continue to reject politics as usual and choose a Vice President who does not represent the politics as usual. We ask that you do not select Hillary Clinton, but instead select someone who will help to unite this country instead of… Category: Government and Politics Added: June 7, 2008 |
| No Hillary Rodham Clinton for Vice President http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nohillaryforvp …We, the supporters of Senator Barack Obama, would like to, via this petition, express that we do not want Hillary Rodham Clinton to be considered as an option for the Vice President position should Barack Obama become the nominee of the Democratic Party i… Category: Other Added: May 29, 2008 |
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Here is a thread where someone suggested Hillary as VP and most or all of the commentators feel strongly AGAINST it:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/09/the-hillary-flashpoint/#comment-43469
It is hard to believe the Democrat Party made a decision to choose Obama by throwing Hillary under the bus. However, why not support Hillary as the Vice-President if this is what she wants. It is my belief that she deserves it after what she has taken from the party and if she feels this will help her in the future. Like the DNC ended up making the decision on their choice for a nominee without considereing us the 18,000,000 supporters of Hillary’s should we not try and find out if this is something Hillary is seeking to be Vice-Presodemt and if so should we not be doing everyting to have it be a reality or are we putting all our efforts into getting the roll call vote at the convention.
Anne 7/14/08
Anne, I agree that the important thing is what Hillary really wants. I and many others believe that she does not want to be Obama’s VP.
Hillary has stated (in the NY Mag cover interview and elsewhere) that she does not want to be VP and would only accept it if requested as a favor to the party (presumably to help Obama get elected). She has stated that she is happy as the Senator from NY. We think she has an excellent career there and VP (especially to Obama!) would be a step down for her. By the end of his terms in 2016 she would be 68 years old, perhaps too old to run for Pres herself. Why should she give up her own career and waste the best years of her active life to prop up the man who treated her so badly?
Also, if Obama loses she is free to run against McCain in 2012. Think of the emotional strain for her and Bill and Chelsea, her campaigning as second on a team that, if it succeeds, will be the end of her own hope for Pres.
Also think of how Bill would feel, living in the VP housing with her, watching her follow Obama’s orders,working for his policies against her own….
There is more to be said and I will be happy to discuss this. But I must go now.
Thank you very much for commenting and starting this discussion.
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Anne, I had another thought on this. We know there is some pressure out there for Hillary to be the VP, so she might end up doing it even if she doesn’t want it.
Putting some pressure on the other side, against her taking it — may equalize the pressures, leaving her more free to choose what SHE really wants.
Tdo,
Thanks so much for your comments I appreciated them.
My main reason for the suggestion about the Vice-President position for Hillary is that she had mentioned one time that she would take the job if offered it and President Clinton had mentioned it as being a strong ticket.
The last thing I would want to support and work for is to have her get the offer and she not wanting it. I only wish there was a sure way of knowing her feelings. Why? becuase if she wants it and feels it would help her in fighting for the causes she believes in I feel she deserves to have it after what the Obama campaign and the DNC did to her during the primaries. I know, like I am sure all her supporters are really not over the wounds of the unfair treatment she received and felt that if this is her desire we should do what we can to make it a reality.
Another thought , I have been reading there is talk about the vote at the convention. Is it possible that the nomination of Obama could be overturned? Is it possible the party would come to their senses and realize Obama is not the best choice who will be able to win in November? It will be impossible for me to vote for Obama who I have felt from the beginning is no way qualified to be our President and Commander-in-Chief. I do feel however that with Hillary on the ticket the Democrats may be able to win and whoever he picks other than her he will not win. However, your comments indicate it is not a good idea. I just want our actions to reflect what Hillary truly wants.
Thanks again
Anne7/14.08
Anne,
Yes, it’s very possible that HIllary can be the nominee for President at the August 25 convention. It will only take about 175 delegates switching (back?) to her. A great many people are working on this — the PUMA movement and others.
See hillarysupporters.com, and turndownobama.com for links to the major groups.
That sure solves the problem of VP, doesn’t it?
Must go now, let’s discuss more later.
tdo
Thanks tdo You are absolutely right it would settle and solve the VP issue and give our country the candidate best suited to be the President and Commander-in-chief.
Being an educator for over 30 years it is so hard to believe we are in this position as Hillary is certainly the right choice and if the Democrats followed through with a fair and just primary she would be our nominee. Please let me know if I can be of any help
Thanks again
Anne 7/15/08
Anne,
There are hundreds of places you can help! For links to sites working on this, see turndownobama.com or hillarysupporters.com and pick out something you’d like to do. hillarysupporters has a very long list.
About the movement fo get a fair convention and a fair vote for Hillary, see Heidi Li’s blog Potpourri or Marc Rubin’s “The Denver Group.”
Here is a samplng of reaction on a serious pro-Hilllary PUMA site to the idea of Hillary as VP — almost all quite negative!
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/hurry-vote-for-hill-for-veep-on-msnbc-poll/